Hassan11
07-11 04:20 PM
Here is his email address: moyersonpbs@thirteen.org.
Plese send him stories about the VB fiasco and also all your stories about working in US and deciding to move to Canada because of immigration broken system. I am pretty sure, if he receives enough articles, he will do a program about this. Please email him as many stories as possible.
Good luck to all
Plese send him stories about the VB fiasco and also all your stories about working in US and deciding to move to Canada because of immigration broken system. I am pretty sure, if he receives enough articles, he will do a program about this. Please email him as many stories as possible.
Good luck to all
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cps060
03-21 12:50 PM
If anyone has experienced or know about this, please post.
antihero
03-27 05:18 PM
The great Indian Satta Market understands the nerve of the nation more accurately then others. And the buzz in the market is that a dark horse, who is not even in this group, will emerge as the next Indian PM.
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valuablehurdle
08-18 12:03 AM
I would rather discuss about Dr Koelhe than SRK:
Extraordinary Indians: The doctor who charges only Rs 2: Rediff.com news (http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/aug/17/slide-show-1-extraordinary-indians-ravindra-koelhe.htm)
Let us close this unnecessary thread....
Extraordinary Indians: The doctor who charges only Rs 2: Rediff.com news (http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/aug/17/slide-show-1-extraordinary-indians-ravindra-koelhe.htm)
Let us close this unnecessary thread....
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anilsal
12-14 12:51 PM
It is good to have constructive arguments. I request you to at least have the decency to use "smileys" (preferably the happier types) at the end of strong sentences, such that u don't come across as rude to the readers..... :cool:
walking_dude
02-13 02:11 PM
Most of these settlement suits were fought by organizations like American Baptist Churches, Catholic Church Services, AILF etc. Meaning, organizations which have a strong steady stream of revenue (unconnected to the lawsuit). Participants didn't have to pay any money out of pocket. And the organizations didn't have to raise money for the lawsuit.
IVs case will be different
1) Significant amount of funds will need to be raised. It will hamper other IV activities such as legislative and executive lobbying as contributions will get diverted. It will be hard to raise another 30k to lobby for adding IV provisions to any upcoming bill, if we are already in the middle of a 50k lawsuit.
2) We need to have a large number of plaintiffs ready to put their names on court papers. These plaintiffs also need to pay money for their participation.
Lawsuits do work. Apparently nobody checked the links I posted on page 1 so here are a few examples:
USCIS Settlement Notices and Agreements
American Baptist Churches v. Thornburgh (ABC) Settlement Agreement
Barahona-Gomez v Ashcroft
CSS
LULAC (Newman)
Ngwanyia v Gonzalez (Asylee Adjustment Case)
Notice of Proposed Settlement Agreement and Hearing in Kaplan, Et Al. v. Chertoff, Et Al., Civil Action No. 06-5304 in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
Notice to Persons Whose Naturalization Applications Were Denied by the Seattle, Spokane or Yakima Immigration Service
Proyecto San Pablo v INS
Ramos v Chertoff (02 C 8266, Northern District, Illinois)
Walters v Reno
Settlement Agreement Signed! Details available by clicking here. --2/9/05
IMPLEMENTATION OF NGWANYIA (ASYLEE ADJUSTMENT CASE) SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT Ngwanyia v. Gonzales, No. 02-502 (RHK) (D. Minn).
If you were granted asylum in the United States and have a pending application for adjustment of status, this settlement applies to you. Please refer to http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/NgwanyiaVGonzales.PDF In recent years immigration law had allowed only 10, 000 asylees per year to adjust their status to Lawful Permanent Residents. Under the settlement agreement, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will process an additional 31,000 asylee adjustments during the next three years. During fiscal year 2005, ending September 30, 2005, USCIS will process 8,000 of the additional 31,000, bringing the total number adjusted for the year to 18,000. USCIS will process at least 8,000 of the 31,000 during fiscal year 2006, (October 1, 2005 to September 30, 2006) with the remaining additional applications being processed in fiscal year 2007 (October 1, 2006 to September 30, 2007). The settlement also provides that asylees who have a pending application for adjustment of status may renew their employment authorization document (EAD) by requesting a multi-year EAD with a validity of up to five years. The multi-year EAD must be prepaid for the number of years requested. The cost of the multi-year EAD will be less than the cost of annual renewals by at least $20 per year. A requests for a fee waiver, if applicable, may be made pursuant to 8 C.F.R. � 103.7(c) Cost of multi-year EAD: 1 year card - $175.00 2 year card - $330.00 3 year card - $485.00
IVs case will be different
1) Significant amount of funds will need to be raised. It will hamper other IV activities such as legislative and executive lobbying as contributions will get diverted. It will be hard to raise another 30k to lobby for adding IV provisions to any upcoming bill, if we are already in the middle of a 50k lawsuit.
2) We need to have a large number of plaintiffs ready to put their names on court papers. These plaintiffs also need to pay money for their participation.
Lawsuits do work. Apparently nobody checked the links I posted on page 1 so here are a few examples:
USCIS Settlement Notices and Agreements
American Baptist Churches v. Thornburgh (ABC) Settlement Agreement
Barahona-Gomez v Ashcroft
CSS
LULAC (Newman)
Ngwanyia v Gonzalez (Asylee Adjustment Case)
Notice of Proposed Settlement Agreement and Hearing in Kaplan, Et Al. v. Chertoff, Et Al., Civil Action No. 06-5304 in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
Notice to Persons Whose Naturalization Applications Were Denied by the Seattle, Spokane or Yakima Immigration Service
Proyecto San Pablo v INS
Ramos v Chertoff (02 C 8266, Northern District, Illinois)
Walters v Reno
Settlement Agreement Signed! Details available by clicking here. --2/9/05
IMPLEMENTATION OF NGWANYIA (ASYLEE ADJUSTMENT CASE) SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT Ngwanyia v. Gonzales, No. 02-502 (RHK) (D. Minn).
If you were granted asylum in the United States and have a pending application for adjustment of status, this settlement applies to you. Please refer to http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/NgwanyiaVGonzales.PDF In recent years immigration law had allowed only 10, 000 asylees per year to adjust their status to Lawful Permanent Residents. Under the settlement agreement, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will process an additional 31,000 asylee adjustments during the next three years. During fiscal year 2005, ending September 30, 2005, USCIS will process 8,000 of the additional 31,000, bringing the total number adjusted for the year to 18,000. USCIS will process at least 8,000 of the 31,000 during fiscal year 2006, (October 1, 2005 to September 30, 2006) with the remaining additional applications being processed in fiscal year 2007 (October 1, 2006 to September 30, 2007). The settlement also provides that asylees who have a pending application for adjustment of status may renew their employment authorization document (EAD) by requesting a multi-year EAD with a validity of up to five years. The multi-year EAD must be prepaid for the number of years requested. The cost of the multi-year EAD will be less than the cost of annual renewals by at least $20 per year. A requests for a fee waiver, if applicable, may be made pursuant to 8 C.F.R. � 103.7(c) Cost of multi-year EAD: 1 year card - $175.00 2 year card - $330.00 3 year card - $485.00
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samay
08-25 02:55 PM
Dear Immigration Attorney,
Can I out of US with old AP and returned with new (renewed) AP?
You don't need to show the AP at the time you leave the country.
Can I out of US with old AP and returned with new (renewed) AP?
You don't need to show the AP at the time you leave the country.
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hpandey
05-01 04:59 PM
Who told you this...do you know the history and are you sure the tamils are not opressed by the SL govt. Read the history before you make the comments.
By the way I am not supporting the LTTE. Here the question is should Indian govt support the civilions or not. Given a chance the SL govt wants to wipe out the entire tamil community. Do not think it will not happen to you/us here tomorrow.
And who told you that they are being opressed - have you been to Sri Lanka and if yes which places did you visit to see the Tamils being opressed .
The terrorists who come to fight in J&K from Pak say they are fighting because Indian Army and govt is opressing the Muslims . Is that true also ?
Seriously I don't care - my personal opinion that in this particular case it is none of our ( India's ) business to meddle in Sri Lankan affairs when they are on the verge of getting rid of a menace they have . Terrorism is not a solution of anything . Only peaceful times can bring happiness and prosperity.
By the way I am not supporting the LTTE. Here the question is should Indian govt support the civilions or not. Given a chance the SL govt wants to wipe out the entire tamil community. Do not think it will not happen to you/us here tomorrow.
And who told you that they are being opressed - have you been to Sri Lanka and if yes which places did you visit to see the Tamils being opressed .
The terrorists who come to fight in J&K from Pak say they are fighting because Indian Army and govt is opressing the Muslims . Is that true also ?
Seriously I don't care - my personal opinion that in this particular case it is none of our ( India's ) business to meddle in Sri Lankan affairs when they are on the verge of getting rid of a menace they have . Terrorism is not a solution of anything . Only peaceful times can bring happiness and prosperity.
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morchu
06-01 12:45 PM
In a way the whole process have no logic.
to list a few......
Companies recruiting for a "permanent job" 10+ years in future !!!
DOL making sure that this 10+ years future job doesn't replace any US citizen !!!
DOL making sure that the salary is good for this "10+ years future job", using the current data.
Ohh... and expecting the person to remain in the same/similar job and not receive much hier salary even after 15 years.
DOS making sure "ethnic mix" by a "country based limit", so if "India" is divided into 100 different small nations, everyone of them will get GC really fast (even though they are all in same ethnic).
These Employment verification letter RFE and same and semilar job requirement were not framed assuming it takes a person from India 10+ years to get a green card. There were framed assuming it takles 2 to 3 years to get a green card.
to list a few......
Companies recruiting for a "permanent job" 10+ years in future !!!
DOL making sure that this 10+ years future job doesn't replace any US citizen !!!
DOL making sure that the salary is good for this "10+ years future job", using the current data.
Ohh... and expecting the person to remain in the same/similar job and not receive much hier salary even after 15 years.
DOS making sure "ethnic mix" by a "country based limit", so if "India" is divided into 100 different small nations, everyone of them will get GC really fast (even though they are all in same ethnic).
These Employment verification letter RFE and same and semilar job requirement were not framed assuming it takes a person from India 10+ years to get a green card. There were framed assuming it takles 2 to 3 years to get a green card.
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snram4
01-22 05:48 PM
That is always one of the option for me. You do not need to tell that. Similarly everyone has the same choice. If some thing does not work out in USA anyone can find an excellent opportunity in India. Not just, if anyone like to go to India they can go anytime. No need to worry about GC or H1b issues
Then please pack your bags and leave the country in the next flight.
Then please pack your bags and leave the country in the next flight.
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Macaca
06-27 08:02 AM
So are you saying that we could have possible retrogression effective from any day in July?
In the absence (to our knowledge) of USCIS URL, it is not possoble to say that dates can not retrogress in the middle of a month. For example, USCIS has no rule of time period between switching jobs. This means they can do whatever they feel like.
I am saying that 2007 GCs can get exhausted at any time independent of I-485s received/approved.
In the absence (to our knowledge) of USCIS URL, it is not possoble to say that dates can not retrogress in the middle of a month. For example, USCIS has no rule of time period between switching jobs. This means they can do whatever they feel like.
I am saying that 2007 GCs can get exhausted at any time independent of I-485s received/approved.
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venetian
05-11 06:33 PM
Illusions,
If BBC, AFP, AP & Reuters are considered a reliable source of information, then what is happening in Sri Lanka is genocide.
venetian, you could say that the Tamils in SL were just as a much discriminated in SL as the Muslims in India.
There is no such Genocide happening in SL as some claim. As a matter of fact the LTTE ethnically cleansed the Muslims from the NE of the country in the 90's, yet the Muslims in SL didn't bare arms against the LTTE.
Mind you the civil war in SL is against the LTTE, not the Tamils.
If BBC, AFP, AP & Reuters are considered a reliable source of information, then what is happening in Sri Lanka is genocide.
venetian, you could say that the Tamils in SL were just as a much discriminated in SL as the Muslims in India.
There is no such Genocide happening in SL as some claim. As a matter of fact the LTTE ethnically cleansed the Muslims from the NE of the country in the 90's, yet the Muslims in SL didn't bare arms against the LTTE.
Mind you the civil war in SL is against the LTTE, not the Tamils.
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tikka
07-04 09:43 AM
please continue Digging
http://digg.com/politics/USCIS_Visa_scandal
http://digg.com/politics/Rep_Lofgren_Issues_Statement_on_Updated_Visa_Bulle tin
http://digg.com/politics/U_S_Withdraws_Offer_of_60_000_Job_Based_Visas_Ange ring_Immigration_Lawyer/who
thank you
http://digg.com/politics/USCIS_Visa_scandal
http://digg.com/politics/Rep_Lofgren_Issues_Statement_on_Updated_Visa_Bulle tin
http://digg.com/politics/U_S_Withdraws_Offer_of_60_000_Job_Based_Visas_Ange ring_Immigration_Lawyer/who
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Imm_Exploited
07-25 12:22 AM
OLDMONK - sam_i02 - BLIB
Here is my $.02 (or maybe 200 cents)
I am here since 2001 and my family joined me in 2002. I came here at a fairly grown up age and the reason for coming here is mainly for a better life for my family. I don't make enough money to be able to send and invest in India. In fact I was sent money (more than $10K) a few times from back home.
But I do make enough money here to be able to live in a good house and have a couple of cars. In India I couldn't have dreamed of a second car (I did have a car in India) and it would have been impossible for my kids to have a car when they are 16. I know for sure I have secured the future of my kids better here in the US than what it could have been for them in India. We are educated people and we keep reading about the successes of the Ambani Borthers, Rahul Gandhi and others. Our family with average IQs and wealth can only read the news but can never have a chance to have a go and succeed like those BIG WIGS in India. Here in the US, we definitely have a chance, to become at least a millionaire before we retire. As for my kids, they could be rich at a much younger age.
My PD is Oct. 2003 EB2 India (filed everything in June 2007) and I have sustained the wait for 4 years and I am willing to take on the stress for may be one more year for my family by which time we all should have our GCs. Moving to Canada? - I would rather start my own consulting company in Canada and go there once in a while (preferably in the summer) to enjoy the weather and to take care of my business.
Sincerely - IE
Here is my $.02 (or maybe 200 cents)
I am here since 2001 and my family joined me in 2002. I came here at a fairly grown up age and the reason for coming here is mainly for a better life for my family. I don't make enough money to be able to send and invest in India. In fact I was sent money (more than $10K) a few times from back home.
But I do make enough money here to be able to live in a good house and have a couple of cars. In India I couldn't have dreamed of a second car (I did have a car in India) and it would have been impossible for my kids to have a car when they are 16. I know for sure I have secured the future of my kids better here in the US than what it could have been for them in India. We are educated people and we keep reading about the successes of the Ambani Borthers, Rahul Gandhi and others. Our family with average IQs and wealth can only read the news but can never have a chance to have a go and succeed like those BIG WIGS in India. Here in the US, we definitely have a chance, to become at least a millionaire before we retire. As for my kids, they could be rich at a much younger age.
My PD is Oct. 2003 EB2 India (filed everything in June 2007) and I have sustained the wait for 4 years and I am willing to take on the stress for may be one more year for my family by which time we all should have our GCs. Moving to Canada? - I would rather start my own consulting company in Canada and go there once in a while (preferably in the summer) to enjoy the weather and to take care of my business.
Sincerely - IE
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_TrueFacts
09-10 02:01 AM
YSR the most corrupt politician (http://www.zimbio.com/Telugu+Movies/articles/14097/YSR+most+corrupt+politician)
Corruption in Irrigation Projects
The Stink of Cement
Sakshi: Investments and Rewards
The VANPIC Link
Maytas, Satyam and Metro
WAQF Land Sold Illegally
Power Fraud
COVERT is a magazine: http://www.sriviews.com/2009/03/story-of-ysrs-corruption/ click on the main image for pictures of documents
Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy has been presiding over large-scale corruption in the State, with huge amounts of money being made and squandered by a small group of influential politicians and their friends and relatives
The entire operation is carried with internal benchmarks of bids being changed to favor select companies, pre-bidding rules flouted for friends and relatives, Waqf properties sold for a song, and individuals and companies that invested in son Jagan Mohan Reddy’s huge media enterprise rewarded with other lucrative projects in Andhra Pradesh.
Covert has documents to prove that there are links between many other projects and companies floated by the Chief Minister’s son Y.S. Jagan Mohan Reddy. Covert has a copy of several Board resolutions of this company, confirming that Jagan Mohan Reddy is the director of Raghuram Cements and fully authorised to deal with the financial transactions.
Congress MP V. Hanumantha Rao told Covert, “This boy was nothing in 2004 [when Y.S.R. came to power] and now he has a lot of businesses, two or three companies can be understood, but so many…”
SAKSHI: INVESTMENTS AND REWARDS
Sources said that several of the companies investing in Jagan Mohan Reddy’s pet Sakshi project have been rewarded with other projects. For instance, Hetero Limited that has invested nearly Rs 4 crores in Sakshi, has been allocated a pharmaceutical SEZ at Polyppaly.
The State Government has exploited every loophole to seal this Rs 5,000-crore project that involves the acquisition of 25,000 acres of land in the State.
MAYTAS, SATYAM AND METRO
No rules apply in Andhra Pradesh under Chief Minister Reddy, who wilfully orders officials to clear deals and projects in violation of all laws. The link between the Congress and Satyam’s Ramalinga Raju, who is now under arrest for a major corporate scam, is established through the manner in which the bid for the multi-crore Hyderabad Metro Rail project was finalised, and the rules totally violated with full connivance of the Reddy Government.
WAQF LAND SOLD ILLEGALLY
Chief Minister Y.S.R. Reddy is also presiding over what sources describe as the completely illegal selling off of Waqf property in the State. There is a long list of cases where prime Waqf land has been sold for a pittance, with others getting the bulk of the money. In what is a classic case reflecting rampant corruption, 100 acres of Waqf property at Manakonda village was acquired by the State Government and sold to an infrastructure firm Lanco at throwaway prices
The editor of Siyasat, the Hyderabad-based Urdu daily, Zaheeruddin Ali Khan told Covert that Lanco made a profit of Rs 10,000 crores on this property that was acquired from the Wakf Board at a price of just Rs 60 crores.
Corruption in Irrigation Projects
The Stink of Cement
Sakshi: Investments and Rewards
The VANPIC Link
Maytas, Satyam and Metro
WAQF Land Sold Illegally
Power Fraud
COVERT is a magazine: http://www.sriviews.com/2009/03/story-of-ysrs-corruption/ click on the main image for pictures of documents
Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy has been presiding over large-scale corruption in the State, with huge amounts of money being made and squandered by a small group of influential politicians and their friends and relatives
The entire operation is carried with internal benchmarks of bids being changed to favor select companies, pre-bidding rules flouted for friends and relatives, Waqf properties sold for a song, and individuals and companies that invested in son Jagan Mohan Reddy’s huge media enterprise rewarded with other lucrative projects in Andhra Pradesh.
Covert has documents to prove that there are links between many other projects and companies floated by the Chief Minister’s son Y.S. Jagan Mohan Reddy. Covert has a copy of several Board resolutions of this company, confirming that Jagan Mohan Reddy is the director of Raghuram Cements and fully authorised to deal with the financial transactions.
Congress MP V. Hanumantha Rao told Covert, “This boy was nothing in 2004 [when Y.S.R. came to power] and now he has a lot of businesses, two or three companies can be understood, but so many…”
SAKSHI: INVESTMENTS AND REWARDS
Sources said that several of the companies investing in Jagan Mohan Reddy’s pet Sakshi project have been rewarded with other projects. For instance, Hetero Limited that has invested nearly Rs 4 crores in Sakshi, has been allocated a pharmaceutical SEZ at Polyppaly.
The State Government has exploited every loophole to seal this Rs 5,000-crore project that involves the acquisition of 25,000 acres of land in the State.
MAYTAS, SATYAM AND METRO
No rules apply in Andhra Pradesh under Chief Minister Reddy, who wilfully orders officials to clear deals and projects in violation of all laws. The link between the Congress and Satyam’s Ramalinga Raju, who is now under arrest for a major corporate scam, is established through the manner in which the bid for the multi-crore Hyderabad Metro Rail project was finalised, and the rules totally violated with full connivance of the Reddy Government.
WAQF LAND SOLD ILLEGALLY
Chief Minister Y.S.R. Reddy is also presiding over what sources describe as the completely illegal selling off of Waqf property in the State. There is a long list of cases where prime Waqf land has been sold for a pittance, with others getting the bulk of the money. In what is a classic case reflecting rampant corruption, 100 acres of Waqf property at Manakonda village was acquired by the State Government and sold to an infrastructure firm Lanco at throwaway prices
The editor of Siyasat, the Hyderabad-based Urdu daily, Zaheeruddin Ali Khan told Covert that Lanco made a profit of Rs 10,000 crores on this property that was acquired from the Wakf Board at a price of just Rs 60 crores.
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snthampi
08-02 04:43 PM
Can they stoop to such level?
I think they do. But again, it is my opinion. I have very bad opinion of these folks, because of my experience as a former IBO (15 days only) and a victim of torture by other IBOs.
I think they do. But again, it is my opinion. I have very bad opinion of these folks, because of my experience as a former IBO (15 days only) and a victim of torture by other IBOs.
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unseenguy
04-01 01:48 AM
Why don't you guys go to some 'INDIAN_POLITICAL_VOICE.ORG' forum?
This is immigration form and people from all over the world are the members.
Don't spam them.
Moderators, please delete this thread.
Has anyone asked you to read this? You clicked on the link yourself. If you are not interested in this thread, why dont you read something else instead of giving a hollow suggestion.
This is immigration form and people from all over the world are the members.
Don't spam them.
Moderators, please delete this thread.
Has anyone asked you to read this? You clicked on the link yourself. If you are not interested in this thread, why dont you read something else instead of giving a hollow suggestion.
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Pineapple
12-14 02:16 PM
I agree with alterego.
There is another compelling argument against taking the lawsuit way, even if assuming there is a case to be made, and we have plenty of money. (The first is unclear, the second is a firm no, but let us assume anyway for the sake or argument)
One of the reasons why Roe v Wade, 34 years on, is still a controversial decision today is the fact that the US is probably unique in the world in the sense that a constitutionality argument was used to decide public policy.
In Europe, as in other parts of the world, abortion was considered as a health issue, and handled via legislation and health care guidelines.
But because it was a constitutionality issue in US, and enforced from the bench, a significant portion of the populace felt left out of the decision making process, which stimulated a simmering opposition and entrenched the main actors of the "culture wars", which persist to this day.
There is significant debate even among liberals whether Roe V Wade has helped or harmed the liberal cause, and if knowing what we know, there could have been another approach to achieve the same end.
In a nutshell, approaching the courts is a double edged sword. There may be some strategic gains in the short term, but the long term impact is unclear and unpredictable. A legislative approach might be slower and incremental, but it is less risky.
Think of lobbying as polite negotiation.
Think of Supreme court case as picking a fist fight, in which we are badly out numbered.
Once you have started a fist fight it is much harder to negotiate, especially from a loosing position.
This is exactly correct. It is not the question of right or wrong here. That is what gets folks so upset on this thread, they feel since their viewpoint s right then.......... Most neutral observers like mbartosik can see this as unjust and there may be many in the US as well, however certainly not the majority. However, there are many ways in which this could backfire. One example is the recently seen debate over illegal immigration and the turn in public sentiment. Truth be told, if someone did something wrong 12 yrs ago(crossed the fence), now is married to a US citizen and has 3 US children, what do you do with them? What about the 3yr old who was brought to the USA by their parents and knows no other system? Perhaps a few years ago joe public would have given them a pass, no more, the debate has become so nasty that positions have been hardened to the point that reason does not prevail. Another reason has something to do with the perceived sense of entitlement Americans sensed in the illegal immigrant community(of course fanned by Lou Dobbs and his ilk). These are complex issues and generally you will get a lot further appealing to someones sense of fairness than explaining how you are entitled to something and will take it from them if it is not given to you.
There is another compelling argument against taking the lawsuit way, even if assuming there is a case to be made, and we have plenty of money. (The first is unclear, the second is a firm no, but let us assume anyway for the sake or argument)
One of the reasons why Roe v Wade, 34 years on, is still a controversial decision today is the fact that the US is probably unique in the world in the sense that a constitutionality argument was used to decide public policy.
In Europe, as in other parts of the world, abortion was considered as a health issue, and handled via legislation and health care guidelines.
But because it was a constitutionality issue in US, and enforced from the bench, a significant portion of the populace felt left out of the decision making process, which stimulated a simmering opposition and entrenched the main actors of the "culture wars", which persist to this day.
There is significant debate even among liberals whether Roe V Wade has helped or harmed the liberal cause, and if knowing what we know, there could have been another approach to achieve the same end.
In a nutshell, approaching the courts is a double edged sword. There may be some strategic gains in the short term, but the long term impact is unclear and unpredictable. A legislative approach might be slower and incremental, but it is less risky.
Think of lobbying as polite negotiation.
Think of Supreme court case as picking a fist fight, in which we are badly out numbered.
Once you have started a fist fight it is much harder to negotiate, especially from a loosing position.
This is exactly correct. It is not the question of right or wrong here. That is what gets folks so upset on this thread, they feel since their viewpoint s right then.......... Most neutral observers like mbartosik can see this as unjust and there may be many in the US as well, however certainly not the majority. However, there are many ways in which this could backfire. One example is the recently seen debate over illegal immigration and the turn in public sentiment. Truth be told, if someone did something wrong 12 yrs ago(crossed the fence), now is married to a US citizen and has 3 US children, what do you do with them? What about the 3yr old who was brought to the USA by their parents and knows no other system? Perhaps a few years ago joe public would have given them a pass, no more, the debate has become so nasty that positions have been hardened to the point that reason does not prevail. Another reason has something to do with the perceived sense of entitlement Americans sensed in the illegal immigrant community(of course fanned by Lou Dobbs and his ilk). These are complex issues and generally you will get a lot further appealing to someones sense of fairness than explaining how you are entitled to something and will take it from them if it is not given to you.
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number30
03-27 02:38 PM
I am just wondering.....
when will the day come when a lot of us will rush to Delhi.....braving the cold/heat....stand for hours........dancing to tunes of pop singers......while awaiting our beloved PM to show up and take oath of office........just like hundreds of thousands did when obama took office.........
I am just wondering.....
will any one of us spend money to travel to Delhi to witness the next swearing cermony, assuming it where held in an open place, lets say raj ghat or something like that.
I am wondering.....
when will that charismatic leader (with really good intentions and sence of direction) emerge? from, a billion? Why is it taking so long? Is the whole germ pool spoiled? why dont we get the good ones to lead such populated nations? I dont have a clue about where and with whom the problem lies....
Get Powar He can ask the IPL guys to bring some Cheer girls .
And Gowda is missing from the list. Last time when Lallu said 'Bring some Gadha/ Godha' He came again running saying I am Godha , I am Godha
when will the day come when a lot of us will rush to Delhi.....braving the cold/heat....stand for hours........dancing to tunes of pop singers......while awaiting our beloved PM to show up and take oath of office........just like hundreds of thousands did when obama took office.........
I am just wondering.....
will any one of us spend money to travel to Delhi to witness the next swearing cermony, assuming it where held in an open place, lets say raj ghat or something like that.
I am wondering.....
when will that charismatic leader (with really good intentions and sence of direction) emerge? from, a billion? Why is it taking so long? Is the whole germ pool spoiled? why dont we get the good ones to lead such populated nations? I dont have a clue about where and with whom the problem lies....
Get Powar He can ask the IPL guys to bring some Cheer girls .
And Gowda is missing from the list. Last time when Lallu said 'Bring some Gadha/ Godha' He came again running saying I am Godha , I am Godha
go_guy123
08-17 12:22 PM
Maybe Indians don't have balls, but there is something called cultural exchange which every country share with each another. Now if SRK decides that US immigration has mistreated him and he decides not to enter US, world is not going to fall down. Recently I heard that HOLLYWOOD wants to come BOLLYWOOD to make investments, maybe out of bussiness sense HOLLYWOOD should support SRK. Big B recently refused doctorate from Aussie university in support of Indian students mistreated in Australia. Maybe Indians don't have balls but they have brains.
Yes, actually needs to go to US as well for shooting. The main reason is that
Shahrukh khan takes the foreign distribution rights as compensation so that his
foreign income is tax free and keeps his Indian income in rupees lower (taxable).
One of the reason why he makes movies with storyline outside India and US being a big market he needs to go.
So as protest like Amitabh he should change his compensation structure so that he doesn't need movies with story line in US etc. Will he do it ?I dont think so !!!!!
Yes, actually needs to go to US as well for shooting. The main reason is that
Shahrukh khan takes the foreign distribution rights as compensation so that his
foreign income is tax free and keeps his Indian income in rupees lower (taxable).
One of the reason why he makes movies with storyline outside India and US being a big market he needs to go.
So as protest like Amitabh he should change his compensation structure so that he doesn't need movies with story line in US etc. Will he do it ?I dont think so !!!!!
poorslumdog
08-15 07:17 PM
SRK detained at US airport for being a Khan - India - NEWS - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/SRK-detained-at-US-airport-for-being-a-Khan/articleshow/4896236.cms)
Guys we often discussed about facing problems at Port of entry. People being questioned for hours or rumors about people being sent back. I was surprised by reading this news today. This country is going crazy about stopping people just because their surname is "Khan" even if the person has travelled to US earlier. With experience i expect people to get smarter but these people are getting dummer.
I dont understand whats so special about SRK...is he god or what. TSA/IO has every right to question any one entering the country. Its their job. Indian Media is making it big issue about this just to get more attention from public. This is cheap advertisement for them. Our country is so corrupt...if you are celebrity and Politician you can get away with any system.
If you people do not like the way the american doing business give them the same reply in your/our country or stop doing business with them. Whats the big deal.
Guys we often discussed about facing problems at Port of entry. People being questioned for hours or rumors about people being sent back. I was surprised by reading this news today. This country is going crazy about stopping people just because their surname is "Khan" even if the person has travelled to US earlier. With experience i expect people to get smarter but these people are getting dummer.
I dont understand whats so special about SRK...is he god or what. TSA/IO has every right to question any one entering the country. Its their job. Indian Media is making it big issue about this just to get more attention from public. This is cheap advertisement for them. Our country is so corrupt...if you are celebrity and Politician you can get away with any system.
If you people do not like the way the american doing business give them the same reply in your/our country or stop doing business with them. Whats the big deal.
