qasleuth
05-28 11:55 PM
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Mr. Oppenheim estimated that there are currently 25,000 EB2 and EB3 cases from Indian nationals that have been reviewed and are only waiting for visa numbers for final processing.
Help me understand here: when pre-adjudicating applications, either you pre-approve, if not satisfied issue RFE or deny. Why would only 25,000 applications have been pre-adjudicated ? NSC processing timeframe being Aug 27, 2007 and TSC Aug 8, 2007, shouldn't the 25,000 number be much higher when compared to the total of 120,000 applications chargeable to India?
Mr. Oppenheim estimated that there are currently 25,000 EB2 and EB3 cases from Indian nationals that have been reviewed and are only waiting for visa numbers for final processing.
Help me understand here: when pre-adjudicating applications, either you pre-approve, if not satisfied issue RFE or deny. Why would only 25,000 applications have been pre-adjudicated ? NSC processing timeframe being Aug 27, 2007 and TSC Aug 8, 2007, shouldn't the 25,000 number be much higher when compared to the total of 120,000 applications chargeable to India?
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jnayar2006
05-10 10:01 PM
The question of immigration to which country is better would probably yield one and the same answer based on the parameters that appear relevant to most people. However, the comparison of immigration processes and systems is an entirely different question - in theory, an employment based immigration system would be a lot better if it is based on correct assumptions. However, an employmet based system that ties an employee to the same job for the duration of the application process, and which requires that the same application processing be redone every time an employee changes jobs, while curtailing the maximum period of time the employee can work in the country is flawed. If the reasoning behind this is that the employee has to show that he/she is indespensible to that one job (with all the highly specific skills that come attached to the job description) which no US citizen/resident is qualified to do, should statistics not show that the majority of positions for which green cards were applied for and obtained have the same employee continuing in that role long after the said employee gets a green card? I would be very surprised if the numbers show that a significant number of employees stick around for any period longer than a year or so in their current, gc-approved roles (and by that, I mean the exact same role for which the GC was applied for - be it with the same company or elsewhere.). In a dynamic market for labor where "skillability" and "learnability" are much more important than current skills and learning, how important is the applicability of a person's current skills to a job that would anyway keep evolving or even changing altogether, during the 6 years of so that a person is employed in that capacity while waiting for the green card?
As long as any amount of faith can be placed on education as an indicator of a person's value to the society, one could contend that a person's level of education and employment *history* (not just the current job) can certainly be used as an excellent proxy for the person's value as an employee to the Nation's economy. Comparing this to the immigration process of Canada etc where the skilled immigrants have not been able to find productive employment commensurate with their titles does not take into account the differences between the two economies. The problem is that skilled immigration and the resultant increase of one factor of production - labor, does not necessarily mean that there is a corresponding increase in another extremely important factor of production - entrepreneurship. Over a period of time, though, this will change - the skilled immigrant population of countries like Canada is still relatively young - eventually, with all the other factors of production coming together, and hopefully, with suitable backing via policies that support a good business climate, things will improve in these countries as well. And this is the main thrust of amny of our arguments to the policy makers - if government policy towards improving the economy using skilled immigration is better in other countries that in the US, then the US is losing some piece of the economic progress pie.
Just my $0.02.
As long as any amount of faith can be placed on education as an indicator of a person's value to the society, one could contend that a person's level of education and employment *history* (not just the current job) can certainly be used as an excellent proxy for the person's value as an employee to the Nation's economy. Comparing this to the immigration process of Canada etc where the skilled immigrants have not been able to find productive employment commensurate with their titles does not take into account the differences between the two economies. The problem is that skilled immigration and the resultant increase of one factor of production - labor, does not necessarily mean that there is a corresponding increase in another extremely important factor of production - entrepreneurship. Over a period of time, though, this will change - the skilled immigrant population of countries like Canada is still relatively young - eventually, with all the other factors of production coming together, and hopefully, with suitable backing via policies that support a good business climate, things will improve in these countries as well. And this is the main thrust of amny of our arguments to the policy makers - if government policy towards improving the economy using skilled immigration is better in other countries that in the US, then the US is losing some piece of the economic progress pie.
Just my $0.02.
PlainSpeak
01-13 06:56 PM
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MC
Ahh MC you are a charming person using your charm to hit below the belt
Now what do i do with you....
I guess i will let this slide because i am not sure what your intentions
If your next post are more informative maybe there would be a better reply (I know not that you care)
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MC
Ahh MC you are a charming person using your charm to hit below the belt
Now what do i do with you....
I guess i will let this slide because i am not sure what your intentions
If your next post are more informative maybe there would be a better reply (I know not that you care)
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django.stone
06-15 02:05 PM
dilip,
i am not debating you point of view, in fact i agree that with the darwinism concept and hope the down economy brings gc to good & talented folks. your rollercoaster ride was from Mar 2001 to May 2003, about 2 yrs. in the current scenario people are waiting for 8+ years and most of them like myself at least 3 yrs. the situation is indeed different this time around with labor substitution, L1, porting etc. causing delays for earlier people, that's why you see more venting this time around.
i am not debating you point of view, in fact i agree that with the darwinism concept and hope the down economy brings gc to good & talented folks. your rollercoaster ride was from Mar 2001 to May 2003, about 2 yrs. in the current scenario people are waiting for 8+ years and most of them like myself at least 3 yrs. the situation is indeed different this time around with labor substitution, L1, porting etc. causing delays for earlier people, that's why you see more venting this time around.
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GC_ki_daud
07-29 04:17 PM
I have
EB2 140 Approved Feb 2006
EB3 140 approved June 2004
My Lawyer says that when they filed my 485 in July 2007, they sent both 140 petitions. IS THAT POSSIBLE ?
Now that the dates got current in Aug 2008 bulletin , I asked them to proceed further so that my case could be adjudicated.
They suggested me to wait and see since ,now, my original EB2 is current anyways.
My question is, Is there any way to find out which category (EB2 OR EB3)will USCIS consider my 485 case to be ?
Should I request lawyer to send a petiton now or wait ? PLease suggest a course of action
EB2 140 Approved Feb 2006
EB3 140 approved June 2004
My Lawyer says that when they filed my 485 in July 2007, they sent both 140 petitions. IS THAT POSSIBLE ?
Now that the dates got current in Aug 2008 bulletin , I asked them to proceed further so that my case could be adjudicated.
They suggested me to wait and see since ,now, my original EB2 is current anyways.
My question is, Is there any way to find out which category (EB2 OR EB3)will USCIS consider my 485 case to be ?
Should I request lawyer to send a petiton now or wait ? PLease suggest a course of action
felix31
10-10 10:21 AM
i would say ban works for everyone - regardless of the citizenship
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grupak
12-14 01:19 PM
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Are you a constitutional lawyer or maybe know someone who can help? Yes, we would appreciate knowledgeable input from experts.
Are you a constitutional lawyer or maybe know someone who can help? Yes, we would appreciate knowledgeable input from experts.
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ramus
07-04 09:57 AM
Guys... Please help Mecaca.. Please scan all 100 pages of breaking news thread and summarize issues.. Please be very specfic and up to the point..
Should be short.
I meant a scan of the other 100 page thread Breaking news. I did not follow that thread and it has lot of issues. Please summarize issues mentioned in Breaking News thread here.
I will add issues from this thread! thanks
Should be short.
I meant a scan of the other 100 page thread Breaking news. I did not follow that thread and it has lot of issues. Please summarize issues mentioned in Breaking News thread here.
I will add issues from this thread! thanks
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_TrueFacts
09-04 08:05 PM
I deeply care about what is happening in my motherland. But this is not the right forum to discuss these issues. Immigration voice is a organization that represents skilled immigrants seeking to emigrate to US and I believe the type of conversation in this thread is not representative of legal immigrant's views (including the majority from India). What we post on open forum is available to everyone and can be used against us in future for propaganda purposes.
I will probably not respond to future posts but I request admins to consider closing and deleting this thread.
Better then, world will know about people like YSR and how much we care about good governance.
I will probably not respond to future posts but I request admins to consider closing and deleting this thread.
Better then, world will know about people like YSR and how much we care about good governance.
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Lasantha
02-13 12:00 PM
LOL - Which side are you on though? There are two schools of thought in this thread. :cool:
I am also with you guys.
Tinku:rolleyes:
I am also with you guys.
Tinku:rolleyes:
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texanguy
05-29 12:34 PM
I think as someone said this guy was randomly throwing numbers out there. How come his analysis does not account for remaining 36K EB1 and EB2 ROW applications. Is he suggesting that all EB1 and EB2 ROW are being used up also. Very hard to believe that for 2008 and 2009 with the way the economy is going. Lot of product companies where most of the ROW 485s would likely come from have stopped applying perm since last summer. There is a huge flaw in this analysis and its not as pessimistic as it seems.
BUT, then again we need legislation to wipe the slate clean and clear these 200K applications, so there is a new build up of visa demand and wait times are tolerable for current applicants and future applicants.
AFAIK the major movement in the visa bulletin in last 3 months (july,august,sept) is not because of spill over of the EB1->EB2->EB3 form the same country, but using the leftover visas from countries like Nigeria, Fiji, Uruguay where the applicants for EB1 & EB2 are often in less than 3-digit numbers. I am surprised that Mr. Oppenheimer never addressed this spill over in his talk at AILA -where Murthy bulletin claims that this information has came from, or may be Murthy lawyers didnt take all the notes of the meeting?? :)
BUT, then again we need legislation to wipe the slate clean and clear these 200K applications, so there is a new build up of visa demand and wait times are tolerable for current applicants and future applicants.
AFAIK the major movement in the visa bulletin in last 3 months (july,august,sept) is not because of spill over of the EB1->EB2->EB3 form the same country, but using the leftover visas from countries like Nigeria, Fiji, Uruguay where the applicants for EB1 & EB2 are often in less than 3-digit numbers. I am surprised that Mr. Oppenheimer never addressed this spill over in his talk at AILA -where Murthy bulletin claims that this information has came from, or may be Murthy lawyers didnt take all the notes of the meeting?? :)
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jkays94
05-25 12:28 PM
At what stage do you have to prove funds? Is it in the form of bank statements?
Yes, certified/notarized bank statements or letters. In my case a 3 line letter on bank letterhead from my bank stating the holdings in the bank was sufficient. It is a good idea to demonstrate this at the beginning of the process. I know of someone who did not have all the funds at once and they wrote a letter explaining that they had $x amount at the moment (which he showed by way of a bank letter) and that by the time his application was to be finally decided he would have the full amount. After his initial assessment, he received a letter asking for his medicals and updated financials. His process completed in 9 months.
Yes, certified/notarized bank statements or letters. In my case a 3 line letter on bank letterhead from my bank stating the holdings in the bank was sufficient. It is a good idea to demonstrate this at the beginning of the process. I know of someone who did not have all the funds at once and they wrote a letter explaining that they had $x amount at the moment (which he showed by way of a bank letter) and that by the time his application was to be finally decided he would have the full amount. After his initial assessment, he received a letter asking for his medicals and updated financials. His process completed in 9 months.
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sidbee
02-15 03:50 PM
Have you checked the latest news about USCIS Ombudsman's Mr. ? Here I am not talking on the behalf of senior members, if some leaders come forward, make efforts to sue USCIS, I don't doubt about the moral support from entire IV community including senior members.
Once it is law suit, USCIS is the system since it is what created this wastage of visa numbers.
Yup, the news about Mr 's resignation is unfortunate.
The case should be drafted in such a way that it shoud try to recapture the visa number , and not blaming USCIS for it. i agree its the USCIS fault , wasting the immigrant visas, but even if USCIS wants it can not recapture those numbers , because there is law which stops USCIS from doing that , We need to file a lawsuit to change that law.
Once it is law suit, USCIS is the system since it is what created this wastage of visa numbers.
Yup, the news about Mr 's resignation is unfortunate.
The case should be drafted in such a way that it shoud try to recapture the visa number , and not blaming USCIS for it. i agree its the USCIS fault , wasting the immigrant visas, but even if USCIS wants it can not recapture those numbers , because there is law which stops USCIS from doing that , We need to file a lawsuit to change that law.
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ragz4u
02-06 02:07 PM
I dont think that you HAVE TO file I-140 within 60 days after labor is approved.
--logiclife.
I had read when this was proposed last time that if this is implemented, the employer will have 45 days from the date of labor approval to file for the I-140. What this prevents is sale of labors (illegaly obviously). A lot of labors from 2001/2002 were on sale till sometime ago (2005) on Sulekha. If/When this law is implemented, buying a labor will get you ahead of the queue by a max of 45 days instead of the 3/4 years today.
--logiclife.
I had read when this was proposed last time that if this is implemented, the employer will have 45 days from the date of labor approval to file for the I-140. What this prevents is sale of labors (illegaly obviously). A lot of labors from 2001/2002 were on sale till sometime ago (2005) on Sulekha. If/When this law is implemented, buying a labor will get you ahead of the queue by a max of 45 days instead of the 3/4 years today.
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breddy2000
09-04 01:11 PM
Its because there are mute spectators who are giving greens or red based on what they think is right
I don't believe I CHANHUV23 & _Truefacts are the same
With all the due respect. Can you tell me how on earth can someone without Admin access reveal someone's personal details???? Pls read all previous posts.
I don't believe I CHANHUV23 & _Truefacts are the same
With all the due respect. Can you tell me how on earth can someone without Admin access reveal someone's personal details???? Pls read all previous posts.
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kate123
09-25 07:14 PM
Here is the link:
Visa Bulletin for July 2008 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4252.html)
Here is the snippet from http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=966830
Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act states that if total demand for visas in an Employment preference category is insufficient to use all available visa numbers in that category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual per-country limit.
It appears that DOS does spill-over every quarter.
Visa Bulletin for July 2008 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4252.html)
Here is the snippet from http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=966830
Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act states that if total demand for visas in an Employment preference category is insufficient to use all available visa numbers in that category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual per-country limit.
It appears that DOS does spill-over every quarter.
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kondur_007
07-26 06:04 PM
I dont think the situation is that bleak. What would happen when EB3 ROW is unable to use up all the spillovers from EB2? The excess would go to EB3 I, right?
This is exactly the point which is not clear and therefore, asking for verticle spillover may not benefit EB3 I.
What you are asking for is "verticle spill" till it comes to EB3 ROW and then spill it "horizontally" to EB3 I, then only EB3 I would benefit. (although USCIS did this in the past, there is no logic that can explain it)
If they re-interprete the spill and make it verticle, it will go EB2 ROW -> EB 3 ROW -> EB2 I -> EB3 I (pure verticle spill) ; In this case, EB3 I gets nothing but EB2 I looses with some benefit to EB3 ROW. And remember, verticle spill from ROW will need to go equally to India and China...
At the end of the day, if you look at the big picture, I think horizontal or verticle spills are not likely to make any difference to the backlog of EB3 I. What we need is more visa number. Mechanism (recapture, STEM exemption etc) does not matter. Also we neet to unite and work on getting our agenda in the CIR that is likely to be awakened once elections are over.
This is exactly the point which is not clear and therefore, asking for verticle spillover may not benefit EB3 I.
What you are asking for is "verticle spill" till it comes to EB3 ROW and then spill it "horizontally" to EB3 I, then only EB3 I would benefit. (although USCIS did this in the past, there is no logic that can explain it)
If they re-interprete the spill and make it verticle, it will go EB2 ROW -> EB 3 ROW -> EB2 I -> EB3 I (pure verticle spill) ; In this case, EB3 I gets nothing but EB2 I looses with some benefit to EB3 ROW. And remember, verticle spill from ROW will need to go equally to India and China...
At the end of the day, if you look at the big picture, I think horizontal or verticle spills are not likely to make any difference to the backlog of EB3 I. What we need is more visa number. Mechanism (recapture, STEM exemption etc) does not matter. Also we neet to unite and work on getting our agenda in the CIR that is likely to be awakened once elections are over.
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cinqsit
01-14 02:10 PM
These rules has always been and so are they right now. Nothing is new in the memorandum. Some one publishes and one points and makes a comment and everyone else like a herd of sheep starts panicking...
Right these are nothing new. They have been followed up (very well I should add) by USCIS consistently for over 2 years now
cinqsit
Right these are nothing new. They have been followed up (very well I should add) by USCIS consistently for over 2 years now
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user1205
02-12 02:54 PM
Also keep in mind all the people with old PDs that filed 140 and 485 at the same time and are now stuck in the 140 mess. As soon as that starts clearing out there will be a lot more demand for GC. I'm afraid we'll have to wait for some more time before it moves forward.
Macaca
01-18 08:44 AM
Law clearly tells that there should be valid job position for H1b at the time of filing. For consulting bodyshoppers will bring persons here and search for job. That is clearly violation of law.
Contract job has to be filled in weeks. But, it takes months and years to get H-1B approved. Thus, contracting is inherently speculative. This means, start date of a new H-1B contract and all following contracts, are not guaranteed.
Difference between Job shops and reputed Companies
Indian body shoppers employ a H1b Persons and many of them are in hourly. No project then no pay. No pay in bench is violation of law and both employee and employer are willingly accept that. So our body shoppers are attractive destination for GC aspirants.
The companies which follow rules are forced to pay bench or lay off. Companies may be under risk of heavy loss when there are too many people are in bench. That means companies which follow rules and regulations are making loss in tough times at the same time Body shops always make money and worst case scenario no loss no gain.
The revenue generated by a contractor is from his/her billing only; it is hard to calculate this amount for a non-contracting company like Intel. All contractor overhead (salary, benefits: insurance, H-1B/GC fee, ) and company profit have to come from this billing.
Still Desi companies are not following Labor laws.
I know a company in OHIO still exploiting H1Bs ... but payroll being generated.
Most (all?) US contractors are not paid on bench. Neither are they paid any benefits. (If they get paid on bench and/or benefits, it will be from the fixed overhead of their billing leading to smaller pay check: you are getting the same amount whichever way you want to spread it!)
This inequality was known by everyone including USCIS.
This means, that benched H-1B will stop getting paid on getting GC. Is this equality?
The 20% fraud/abuse that Slumdog Ron Hira barks is violation of such garbage-based laws created by him and Matloff. Another one is H-1B can not pay (some parts of) his/her H-1B/GC fee.
The only genuine laws are H-1B is paid (ignoring bench but including H-1B & GC overhead) below prevailing , company does not exist and H-1B is working in gas station (and increasing competition for Hira/Matloff's thorough bred US born asses).
Contract job has to be filled in weeks. But, it takes months and years to get H-1B approved. Thus, contracting is inherently speculative. This means, start date of a new H-1B contract and all following contracts, are not guaranteed.
Difference between Job shops and reputed Companies
Indian body shoppers employ a H1b Persons and many of them are in hourly. No project then no pay. No pay in bench is violation of law and both employee and employer are willingly accept that. So our body shoppers are attractive destination for GC aspirants.
The companies which follow rules are forced to pay bench or lay off. Companies may be under risk of heavy loss when there are too many people are in bench. That means companies which follow rules and regulations are making loss in tough times at the same time Body shops always make money and worst case scenario no loss no gain.
The revenue generated by a contractor is from his/her billing only; it is hard to calculate this amount for a non-contracting company like Intel. All contractor overhead (salary, benefits: insurance, H-1B/GC fee, ) and company profit have to come from this billing.
Still Desi companies are not following Labor laws.
I know a company in OHIO still exploiting H1Bs ... but payroll being generated.
Most (all?) US contractors are not paid on bench. Neither are they paid any benefits. (If they get paid on bench and/or benefits, it will be from the fixed overhead of their billing leading to smaller pay check: you are getting the same amount whichever way you want to spread it!)
This inequality was known by everyone including USCIS.
This means, that benched H-1B will stop getting paid on getting GC. Is this equality?
The 20% fraud/abuse that Slumdog Ron Hira barks is violation of such garbage-based laws created by him and Matloff. Another one is H-1B can not pay (some parts of) his/her H-1B/GC fee.
The only genuine laws are H-1B is paid (ignoring bench but including H-1B & GC overhead) below prevailing , company does not exist and H-1B is working in gas station (and increasing competition for Hira/Matloff's thorough bred US born asses).
eastindia
07-21 02:30 PM
If a person is making lot of money through this e-commerce business why is he shopping in cheap Walmart? Why do they drive cheap cars? Beats me.
