jayleno
07-21 03:11 PM
To a_yaja,
Thanks for your detailed story my friend. This thread is turing into a support group for Amway/Quickstar victims.
How is your experience with your childhood Amway friend. Still friends or just keeping in touch because he has the acess to the Amway database? :P
[QUOTE=a_yaja;1971286]I have come across quite a few of the Amway/ Quickstart folks. Like most of the people have described here, they usually approach me in Walmart, Meijer, etc. My first experience was in the temple. This dude and his wife went "oh wow! you know so many languages." After talking to the dude, he said that he knew some of my childhood friends and he remembered my face and that we could have possibly played cricket together in our childhood days (this itself should have raised red flags - but I was naive then and didn't think twice). Long story short, we exchanged phone #s and next day he called me and asked me to meet him at his home. He was running an "ecomm business" and was looking for partners. I asked him if he was talking about Amway and he innocently asked me "What is Amway?" I agreed to meet him but something bothered me. I called up another childhood friend who was in Amway and asked him about this dude. Sure enough he was an Amway-ite and already a "Diamond". I was mad and did not go to his house. He called me a couple of times but I never picked up the phone.
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Thanks for your detailed story my friend. This thread is turing into a support group for Amway/Quickstar victims.
How is your experience with your childhood Amway friend. Still friends or just keeping in touch because he has the acess to the Amway database? :P
[QUOTE=a_yaja;1971286]I have come across quite a few of the Amway/ Quickstart folks. Like most of the people have described here, they usually approach me in Walmart, Meijer, etc. My first experience was in the temple. This dude and his wife went "oh wow! you know so many languages." After talking to the dude, he said that he knew some of my childhood friends and he remembered my face and that we could have possibly played cricket together in our childhood days (this itself should have raised red flags - but I was naive then and didn't think twice). Long story short, we exchanged phone #s and next day he called me and asked me to meet him at his home. He was running an "ecomm business" and was looking for partners. I asked him if he was talking about Amway and he innocently asked me "What is Amway?" I agreed to meet him but something bothered me. I called up another childhood friend who was in Amway and asked him about this dude. Sure enough he was an Amway-ite and already a "Diamond". I was mad and did not go to his house. He called me a couple of times but I never picked up the phone.
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kuhelica2000
02-12 05:58 PM
Quota means a guaranteed number of visa for a country. For example if there is a 3% quota for monorities in college admissions, it guarentees 3% will go to minorities. There is no such quota for green card; only maximum limit a country can use. Even with this limit India captures more visas then any of the ROW countries.
Getting rid of quotas will help. We will not be in a situation where
- EB2 is current for ROW and unavailable for India.
- EB3 is in year 2005 for ROW and stuck in 2001 for India
Adding more visas is a legislative process. Applying per country quota is as
per DOL�s discretion.
Getting rid of quotas will help. We will not be in a situation where
- EB2 is current for ROW and unavailable for India.
- EB3 is in year 2005 for ROW and stuck in 2001 for India
Adding more visas is a legislative process. Applying per country quota is as
per DOL�s discretion.
Wendyzhu77
07-16 06:24 PM
You should know that processing day means NOTHING! If you are after that, it doesn't mean your case will not be processed. If you are before that, it doesn't mean your case has been processed.
So surprised there are still lots of people keeping an eye on processing day. That's totally useless piece of information.
So surprised there are still lots of people keeping an eye on processing day. That's totally useless piece of information.
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NKR
02-13 11:24 AM
What is ROW and POW, please? I have seen both used in several posts (I am hoping POW is not Prisoner of War:)) Still learning the immigration lingo!
There is no such thing as POW in immigration. I was kidding when I said that. With immigration mess I am feeling like one POW (prisoner of war).
There is limit on visa numbers allocated to each country, So retrogression has affected people from India, China, Mexico and Philliphines more since the maximum number of people applying for EB category GC are from these 4 countries and . "Rest of the World - ROW" refers to any country which is not the above four countries.
There is no such thing as POW in immigration. I was kidding when I said that. With immigration mess I am feeling like one POW (prisoner of war).
There is limit on visa numbers allocated to each country, So retrogression has affected people from India, China, Mexico and Philliphines more since the maximum number of people applying for EB category GC are from these 4 countries and . "Rest of the World - ROW" refers to any country which is not the above four countries.
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nomi
09-29 11:27 AM
Yes, it is. I used it when I went to get my Canadian PR validated in June this year. Are you flying or driving? Make sure you do not surrender your I-94.
Take a letter from your employer and recent paystubs just in case. (They didn't ask for them but take them anyway).
I assume you know all the conditions?
Thanks for your reply. Which I-94 I have to show or use. I have two of them now. One expire with my visa date on 08-30-06 and other of attached with my H1 B extension valid from 8-31-06 to 8-30-09.
Does immigration officer know about this rule at port of entry ??
Should I drive or fly ..which one will be more easy while using this rule ?
Take a letter from your employer and recent paystubs just in case. (They didn't ask for them but take them anyway).
I assume you know all the conditions?
Thanks for your reply. Which I-94 I have to show or use. I have two of them now. One expire with my visa date on 08-30-06 and other of attached with my H1 B extension valid from 8-31-06 to 8-30-09.
Does immigration officer know about this rule at port of entry ??
Should I drive or fly ..which one will be more easy while using this rule ?
gjoe
02-15 05:06 AM
[QUOTE=hopefulgc;223549]thats bull.... disclosure is not requored.... my dog is a member of six professional canine associations ... does he have to bark it all up.
Are you implying that we are treated like dogs here? If your answer is yes we have a credible case against USCIS. If your answer is no then my friend ( buddy as Indians and pakis say) you have to disclose your associations.
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Are you implying that we are treated like dogs here? If your answer is yes we have a credible case against USCIS. If your answer is no then my friend ( buddy as Indians and pakis say) you have to disclose your associations.
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logiclife
05-10 04:13 PM
There is a lot of debate going on here, about how Canada and Australia have a better immigration system because they are points-based self-petition systems compared to employer-petition system here in US.
I believe the employer-petition system is still the best system to implement for immigration. Its complicated, long and provides breeding ground for exploitation. But that is the ONLY way to ensure that the workforce is not oversupplied with labor and the immigrants who can gather points actually have the ability to get jobs.(look at Canada where Ph.Ds who aced the points sytem are inept in real world and drive taxicabs and blame the Canadian Government).
If I score 100 points out of required 50 or 60 points for Canada, its all meaningless if I am inept and cannot get a job. However, I would contribute to my own well-being and to the workforce and economy if I can find a job and an employer willing to petition, even if I score 25 points out of required 50 or 60.
US has the best immigration system and I believe the employer petition is the best method for adjudication. However, it has its problems in terms of delays due to bureaucratic inefficiencies and inadequate annual quotas. If Australia, France, Germany are going to adopt the Canadian model of points-based system, its not goint to help them or the ones who go there.
I believe the employer-petition system is still the best system to implement for immigration. Its complicated, long and provides breeding ground for exploitation. But that is the ONLY way to ensure that the workforce is not oversupplied with labor and the immigrants who can gather points actually have the ability to get jobs.(look at Canada where Ph.Ds who aced the points sytem are inept in real world and drive taxicabs and blame the Canadian Government).
If I score 100 points out of required 50 or 60 points for Canada, its all meaningless if I am inept and cannot get a job. However, I would contribute to my own well-being and to the workforce and economy if I can find a job and an employer willing to petition, even if I score 25 points out of required 50 or 60.
US has the best immigration system and I believe the employer petition is the best method for adjudication. However, it has its problems in terms of delays due to bureaucratic inefficiencies and inadequate annual quotas. If Australia, France, Germany are going to adopt the Canadian model of points-based system, its not goint to help them or the ones who go there.
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gcfordesi
08-15 07:39 PM
I know its not easy or possible in USA to get a Immigration officer to make some scene deliberately at airport . Here is what i observed .
He was in CA a month back june/july for his movie shoot nothing popped that time.
But he signed a 100 crore INR deal with FOX for his Forth coming movie My Name is Khan i think couple of weeks back dose it tell something ?
So with this incident he is on Top 10 news in CNN today - Btw this news was at number 7 few hours back and now number 2.
Nice way to create awareness of Shah Rukh Khan and the Movie.
Just my 2 cents ....
1. 1 When an insect sting turns fatal
2. 2 Bollywood star detained at airport
3. 3 Tropical Storm Ana forms
4. 4 Britain seizes control of islands
5. 5 Bob Dylan a complete unknown?
6. 6 Australian granted right to die
7. 7 Lockheed Fire scorches 6,800 acres
8. 8 Run 135 miles across Death Valley?
9. 9 Arctic Sea 'ransom demanded'
10. 10 Missing boy last seen near car
He was in CA a month back june/july for his movie shoot nothing popped that time.
But he signed a 100 crore INR deal with FOX for his Forth coming movie My Name is Khan i think couple of weeks back dose it tell something ?
So with this incident he is on Top 10 news in CNN today - Btw this news was at number 7 few hours back and now number 2.
Nice way to create awareness of Shah Rukh Khan and the Movie.
Just my 2 cents ....
1. 1 When an insect sting turns fatal
2. 2 Bollywood star detained at airport
3. 3 Tropical Storm Ana forms
4. 4 Britain seizes control of islands
5. 5 Bob Dylan a complete unknown?
6. 6 Australian granted right to die
7. 7 Lockheed Fire scorches 6,800 acres
8. 8 Run 135 miles across Death Valley?
9. 9 Arctic Sea 'ransom demanded'
10. 10 Missing boy last seen near car
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kumar1
07-10 12:18 PM
Dear Friends, I had it... I am moving to Canada in the next 2 months to work for guess who? Microsoft. Came to USA in 1997 for my masters, worked at Legato, Documentum and Opentext. Had to restart my GC twrice, once as the company laid me off and next for career progression. GC is still years years away. Interviewed with MSFT last month and got an offer to work in their Enterprise Collaboration team. MSFT looked at the visa mess I was in and offered me to work in Vancouver. I get my Canadian GC in 6 months and my wife can work from day one. I am abandoning my US dream for good;guess I would be satisfied with touching my 4 year old son's American passport.
I worked for a canadian company in US and now would be working for a US company in Canada. This is globalization. True Globalization. Any for those whiners belonging to IEEE and its propoganda machine, I would like to mention that I drew salries which were above way above the norm. I am sure I would be drawing more than 2 of his programmers combined. Ron- ask your folks to learn to compete and update their skills. They probably studied studied 'history of mathematics' as a math subject in high school instead of calculus. They were happy that they had the coolest Nintendo games while many like me were burning the midnight old figuring out data structures at Berkeley.
I hope Berney Sanders and his club of the CIR days are hearing the developments. Berney, fix the broken education system for job protection rather than building fences to prevent legal workers to come to this gifted country. More companies will leave for nearshore if the mess continues. Fix the system by closing the H1B loopholes that a small percentage of companies are exploiting. Don't bad mouth the H1B system which has given you so much talent that you could have never groomed, the talented individuals who have contributed to the society, social security system and what not. Patch the holes in the fence, do not erect a higher fence for which people need to pay $ 5000 to cross. And by the way if you have the inclination and the time- fix the broken LEGAL High Skilled immigration system.
Byeusa - I read your story and felt like you have written mine. I came to USA in 2000, with a dream...a 25 year old young single guy, having a B.Tech degree from IIT Delhi, full of fire, fighting to do anything. 7 years down the line, only thing that I have earned here is a thick 25 lb bag filled with immigration papers. I avoid even looking at that bag, it makes me feel depressed. My wife, a graduate from IIT, sitting at home on H4 waiting for a day when she will get her work permit. Now I am 33, I am still doing what I was doing at the age of 25. My manager gives me 3 days to finish something and I know I can do it in 3 hours....it has become a physical job, its not a mental job anymore. This is the 3rd time, someone has applied for my green card and I am sure it will never go thoguh.
Keeping everything in perspective, my wife and I applied for Canadian PR 2 years ago and now we have gotten it. We want to move to Canada, however there are so many things.....daughter, her school, new country, culture...etc. Nevertheless, when I read your story, I felt encouraged and I am going to think harder in this area. I wish you well. God bless you!
I worked for a canadian company in US and now would be working for a US company in Canada. This is globalization. True Globalization. Any for those whiners belonging to IEEE and its propoganda machine, I would like to mention that I drew salries which were above way above the norm. I am sure I would be drawing more than 2 of his programmers combined. Ron- ask your folks to learn to compete and update their skills. They probably studied studied 'history of mathematics' as a math subject in high school instead of calculus. They were happy that they had the coolest Nintendo games while many like me were burning the midnight old figuring out data structures at Berkeley.
I hope Berney Sanders and his club of the CIR days are hearing the developments. Berney, fix the broken education system for job protection rather than building fences to prevent legal workers to come to this gifted country. More companies will leave for nearshore if the mess continues. Fix the system by closing the H1B loopholes that a small percentage of companies are exploiting. Don't bad mouth the H1B system which has given you so much talent that you could have never groomed, the talented individuals who have contributed to the society, social security system and what not. Patch the holes in the fence, do not erect a higher fence for which people need to pay $ 5000 to cross. And by the way if you have the inclination and the time- fix the broken LEGAL High Skilled immigration system.
Byeusa - I read your story and felt like you have written mine. I came to USA in 2000, with a dream...a 25 year old young single guy, having a B.Tech degree from IIT Delhi, full of fire, fighting to do anything. 7 years down the line, only thing that I have earned here is a thick 25 lb bag filled with immigration papers. I avoid even looking at that bag, it makes me feel depressed. My wife, a graduate from IIT, sitting at home on H4 waiting for a day when she will get her work permit. Now I am 33, I am still doing what I was doing at the age of 25. My manager gives me 3 days to finish something and I know I can do it in 3 hours....it has become a physical job, its not a mental job anymore. This is the 3rd time, someone has applied for my green card and I am sure it will never go thoguh.
Keeping everything in perspective, my wife and I applied for Canadian PR 2 years ago and now we have gotten it. We want to move to Canada, however there are so many things.....daughter, her school, new country, culture...etc. Nevertheless, when I read your story, I felt encouraged and I am going to think harder in this area. I wish you well. God bless you!
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amitga
08-15 04:59 PM
There is different view to the whole story:
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/15/AR2009081501595.html)
Meghnad Desai , an Indian-born economist, a member of Britain's House of Lords and the author of books on Indian cinema and globalization, joked in an interview in New Delhi that the whole thing seemed like a publicity stunt for the new film.
"The U.S. government was an inadvertent accomplice to 20th Century Fox, which is investing millions in this movie," he said, chuckling, referring to a joint venture between Hollywood and Bollywood to distribute the film. "This was a no-no for India-U.S. relations. Anyhow, there will be no bigger story in India tomorrow. Or maybe for the next few days."
read more at : http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/15/AR2009081501595.html
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/15/AR2009081501595.html)
Meghnad Desai , an Indian-born economist, a member of Britain's House of Lords and the author of books on Indian cinema and globalization, joked in an interview in New Delhi that the whole thing seemed like a publicity stunt for the new film.
"The U.S. government was an inadvertent accomplice to 20th Century Fox, which is investing millions in this movie," he said, chuckling, referring to a joint venture between Hollywood and Bollywood to distribute the film. "This was a no-no for India-U.S. relations. Anyhow, there will be no bigger story in India tomorrow. Or maybe for the next few days."
read more at : http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/15/AR2009081501595.html
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villamonte6100
02-18 02:13 PM
Did you ask you lawyer? It's so much easier to criticize.
My immigration lawyer laughed when I asked about a possibility of filing WOM to force action on my stalled I-485. So I proceeded myself. Yes, I did many mistakes but I ultimately prevailed. AILF lawyer and Assistant US Attorney could not believe that an ordinary programmer can write quality legal briefs and challenge the government. Some of my friends did not bother with WOM and are still waiting while others followed and received green cards. If you think outside of the box, you can achieve something others could not.
Congratulations!!! I think you really did a great job.
But what we are discussing here is class action.
My immigration lawyer laughed when I asked about a possibility of filing WOM to force action on my stalled I-485. So I proceeded myself. Yes, I did many mistakes but I ultimately prevailed. AILF lawyer and Assistant US Attorney could not believe that an ordinary programmer can write quality legal briefs and challenge the government. Some of my friends did not bother with WOM and are still waiting while others followed and received green cards. If you think outside of the box, you can achieve something others could not.
Congratulations!!! I think you really did a great job.
But what we are discussing here is class action.
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cableman
08-30 10:53 AM
I would recommend you to search online such as http://www.monster.ca and apply for some positions. This is the only reliable way to test the Canadian job market. If you get positive responses, it tells you that your skill set is indeed in demand. If not, you should think twice before moving. Since Canada and US are next to each other, you can probably be able to go for interviews and to secure a job before moving. This way, you are sure that you will have a job when you move.
One reminder. Don't expect their jobs can pay you as good as what you are getting in US. The upside is the living standard is relatively lower in Canada especially compared to big cities like NYC and San Francisco. Also, you will have more vacations and no more worry of GC retrogression.
I did the PR Canadian immi. myself and got the approval. The process is straightforward . However, I hesitate to go there . From what I heard is diffucult to get IT job.
One reminder. Don't expect their jobs can pay you as good as what you are getting in US. The upside is the living standard is relatively lower in Canada especially compared to big cities like NYC and San Francisco. Also, you will have more vacations and no more worry of GC retrogression.
I did the PR Canadian immi. myself and got the approval. The process is straightforward . However, I hesitate to go there . From what I heard is diffucult to get IT job.
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gdilla
05-10 03:42 AM
Once again, eb2waiter, a baseless statement in "Canada is not a land of opportunity". No one owes you a living. You have to work for it. If you're such a good IT worker, become a consultant or open up your own business doing so. You can't expect someone to hand you a job. Like someone else stated, if your skills are in demand and a good communicator, you'll be fine.
And yes, I had a US job offer before arriving here.
And if you're already here as a student, well, I can't think of a better way to research the job market from within - job fairs, colleagues, etc.
Also, I don't see your point - if you're an immigrant student in Canada, there is no issue of foreign credentials. Any professional distinction earned in Canada lands you on the same footing as any citizen. So again, please stop spreading bad information.
Did you get a job in US before you came to US. Most probably not.
There are a lot of people who come to US blindly like students or consultants. They also landed up jobs (doing what they were meant for and not as cabbies or as janitors) and built careers.
There are no or few body shoppers in canada because there are only a few shops :-D
For the majority this is true in US. This is what land of opportunity means.
It might be true for a few cases in Canada but for the majority it is false advertisement. Canada is not a land of opportunity. This is not a few of those who have been burnt talking. Try getting a job in Canada. Look at the salaries for yourselves.
Folks am again telling this for your own benefit only. I have nothing to gain. I was not wise to do that. So thought I would guide the poor wandering souls here. Dont waste your dollars in Canada PR when you have US GC pending. It will do you no good.
I wont post on this thread again :)
---DISCLAIMER: ABOVE ARE MY VIEWS ONLY AND MAY BE FALSE---
And yes, I had a US job offer before arriving here.
And if you're already here as a student, well, I can't think of a better way to research the job market from within - job fairs, colleagues, etc.
Also, I don't see your point - if you're an immigrant student in Canada, there is no issue of foreign credentials. Any professional distinction earned in Canada lands you on the same footing as any citizen. So again, please stop spreading bad information.
Did you get a job in US before you came to US. Most probably not.
There are a lot of people who come to US blindly like students or consultants. They also landed up jobs (doing what they were meant for and not as cabbies or as janitors) and built careers.
There are no or few body shoppers in canada because there are only a few shops :-D
For the majority this is true in US. This is what land of opportunity means.
It might be true for a few cases in Canada but for the majority it is false advertisement. Canada is not a land of opportunity. This is not a few of those who have been burnt talking. Try getting a job in Canada. Look at the salaries for yourselves.
Folks am again telling this for your own benefit only. I have nothing to gain. I was not wise to do that. So thought I would guide the poor wandering souls here. Dont waste your dollars in Canada PR when you have US GC pending. It will do you no good.
I wont post on this thread again :)
---DISCLAIMER: ABOVE ARE MY VIEWS ONLY AND MAY BE FALSE---
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10-29 04:46 PM
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lotsofspace
02-13 11:59 AM
I agree that quota system is cumbersome. It would've been much easier just to have one bucket. But I fail to see how it is discriminatory when every coutry gets an equal piece of the pie. It is a classic supply and demand issue, but it's not a discrimination. Consider also the fact that GC is a grace not a right. "Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own?"
The problem here not every country gets equal or equitable piece of pie. The probelm is Part of the pie gets thrown out and not given to people in the line because too many of them happen to be from one country.
The problem here not every country gets equal or equitable piece of pie. The probelm is Part of the pie gets thrown out and not given to people in the line because too many of them happen to be from one country.
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jsb
06-17 01:56 PM
I like this news even if it is rumor. I have 3 live examples of the CTS guys that are not even eligible for H1 came on L1 (Project Manager) and applied in EB1 and all got Green Cards in 9 months. Their pay is even peanuts. Why USCIS does not check the pay stubs for these L1s?
Write to the Ombudsman. His office works on such issues, and makes recommendations on USCIS working improvements.
Write to the Ombudsman. His office works on such issues, and makes recommendations on USCIS working improvements.
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mallu
02-15 06:26 PM
The reason we have greater supply of workforce in IT from one specific country is not because of skills or talents. Almost every IT workers from ROW and China came to the US as a foreign student after TOEFL, GMAT, GRE, internship and only then landed a job in IT. Whereas the preponderence of IT workers from India came here through L1/B1/H1 sponsorship through bodyshops. Attending school, preparing for generalized tests requires time, money and patience. This is one big factor why the supply curve is skewed.
I think it was reported that students from India is the largest % of students in US universities.
I think it was reported that students from India is the largest % of students in US universities.
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apt29
09-04 03:15 PM
Let us not fight and belittle ourselves in the community. Just think how people joke about Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi (no pun intended). The same could happen to us also. Atleast keep quiet if not discussing the Immigration issues. Politicians come and go, but people stay forever. Fighting about a local politician in international website like IV will tarnish our image.
gcformeornot
01-13 08:55 PM
Can USCIS face legal challenges on this? It was just a memo, no law has been changed by the Government; the laws are just the same they were when they let it about a million people or so through these IT consulting companies.
Now they go back and say that was a misinterpretation of existing laws :eek:
don't you think. AC21 (the famous Yates Memo) is also a memo. People expect USCIS to follow it though.... :o
Now they go back and say that was a misinterpretation of existing laws :eek:
don't you think. AC21 (the famous Yates Memo) is also a memo. People expect USCIS to follow it though.... :o
pdjan2003
11-09 08:39 AM
One of my friends informed me about immigrationvoice.com few months back, I am EB3 with PD Jan 2003 and currently waiting to file I-485 for last one year. It is frustrating to hear how some of the companies are bypassing and jumping ahead on the line. I thought I get some opinion; I am curious why this isn't being bunged. Although using a pre-approved labor is a legal thing, how much of sagacity does it really have? Within my little 10-12 friend circle I have had atleast FOUR people who got their GC within 8 months through this same company - KFORCE, Rapidigm Inc., utilizing pre-approved labor. It seems this company lures people with a condition that they will process their GC within couple of months, isn't this using the legal system at their business advantage.
What can we do to stop this, it is frustrating to me as I am waiting for close to four years with my GC process and been in the US for 7 years. At the same time, I see people who have been in the US for 2 years has their GC. To me this legal system does not make any sense and is a clear proof of injustice. I am thinking of talking to a legal attorney to see if this makes a justifiable case and if possible file a lawsuit for scrutiny against this company or any company that uses this facility for their benefit. May be I am overreacting and this is the reason I am posting it here to get an opinion, what do you guys think ?
What can we do to stop this, it is frustrating to me as I am waiting for close to four years with my GC process and been in the US for 7 years. At the same time, I see people who have been in the US for 2 years has their GC. To me this legal system does not make any sense and is a clear proof of injustice. I am thinking of talking to a legal attorney to see if this makes a justifiable case and if possible file a lawsuit for scrutiny against this company or any company that uses this facility for their benefit. May be I am overreacting and this is the reason I am posting it here to get an opinion, what do you guys think ?
